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Post by [QS]_ShaDo on Oct 29, 2010 21:24:37 GMT -5
I need everyone who has access on here's say on this.
He seems ready, more active than me and mike, was co leader before, and said he's really ready this time to prove himself better than he did before when he was co leader last time.
What do you all think? yay or nay? =]
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Post by [SQ] Alc on Oct 29, 2010 23:57:12 GMT -5
Absolutely no. I love you Star, I think you are cool, You have helped me with alot of stuff, but no.
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Post by `SNΞΔKY_[QS] on Oct 30, 2010 7:17:58 GMT -5
If Star became Co-Leader I'm guessing Mike would also stay as Co-Leader?
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Post by [QS] quiXoté~!! on Oct 30, 2010 14:45:50 GMT -5
This is an interesting topic. I don't know him well enough to really decide without hearing other's thoughts. One thing that worries me is the number of "episodes" that seem to to occassionally appear in these forums, though none have happened as of late.
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Post by [QS]² skruffinator on Oct 30, 2010 16:15:04 GMT -5
No, he needs to control himself before he controls the clan.
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Post by `SNΞΔKY_[QS] on Oct 30, 2010 16:50:51 GMT -5
Star has access to this-- surprised he hasnt weighed in yet. Is he aware that he is being considered?
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Post by [QS]_Collin on Oct 30, 2010 16:59:21 GMT -5
Yes i am, but i was waiting for peoples thoughts before i weighed in on this. and since this is all thats here i will weigh in now
I know in the past i wasn't exactly the "Best" Co-Leader or made the "Best" decisions. But that was then and this is now.
From the time i was relieved of my Co-Leader position to now. I have watched Sneaky, Mike, Shado, Shade and John. And i have learned a few things.
And in my actual personal life, i have been working on my anger and attitude. and i have been progressing, and learning to keep my cool in hot situations.
As well as not being a "Dictator". I learned to sit back and review the situation and get others opinions before justifying and punishments or actions.
Some think i should never get this spot again. But we all deserve second chances. And i am determined to prove myself to all of you to be a worthy Co-Leader for QS.
I have also had some Pre-Training (Site Manager). By watching for people who seem to be disorderly or crude. Or breaking forum rules and such. And settling situations without conflict.
But this time around i will strive to do my absolute best.
Hows that for a weigh in sneaky? xD
-Star
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Post by [QS]_ShaDo on Oct 30, 2010 17:16:19 GMT -5
Him and mike 1st started talking about his position as co leader, ever since then he's been telling me how ready he was the past 2 weeks Even i myself told him i wasnt sure if he was ready just yet. After talking with star last night on xfire he does seem ready. He's willing to step down if things dont change with him.
Yes mike wouldve been still co leader alongside with star. I knew befoe making a legit decision on this that i needed a say from members who have access on here.
I still have the last say on this but value everyone's opinion on this. Since star stated his case on his leadership, I need to know if u all think he's ready or not.
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Post by [QS] »ºQ§º«§ĦªÐƐ on Oct 30, 2010 18:38:28 GMT -5
If what Star says is true about him changing his attitude and all that, and if he says he's ready, and you Shado also thinks he might be ready, I don't see why not we give him a chance to prove himself? I mean if things go wrong again like they did the last time, it means that Star just needs a bit more time observing other leaders, and watching the different ways of how people lead a clan. The more observation the better, him understanding that is key if he's going to become co leader again. As I said before, if Star insists that he's ready for a second chance, I don't see why not. Another key thing for Star to know is NOT to let himself become stressed out and NOT work too hard as a co leader, even though what he's doing may be good for QS, over working it isn't, and that's when we have issues. Anyway that's pretty much what I think, so I say give him a chance, see what happens, it'll tell us what Star needs to improve on and how he can improve.
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Post by [QS]_Collin on Oct 30, 2010 19:02:08 GMT -5
Wow, thanks shade. I promise to do my best
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Post by `SNΞΔKY_[QS] on Oct 31, 2010 7:38:39 GMT -5
Since I had the pleasure of dealing with Star as my Co-Leader, I will also weigh in. The only thing Star needs to do is not get so damn excited and go overboard with shit. Star you need to work on how you come across to people. The best way to do things is to gently warn people first before you put the hammer down. Don't go looking for trouble--but instead let the trouble come to you, and handle it with a open mind. Basically you need to calm yourself. There is no need to impress me, Shado or anyone with getting tough with someone or something. Even just recently with the issue of non QS wearing our tags you threatened to block and ban.. No Star, that's not how you handle it. Instead, ask yourself why someone does such things, warn them in a calm manner without threats, and see what happens. 90% of the time people will listen to you and follow your orders.. In most cases you only need to go Hitler on someone as a last resort.
My bottom line: I agree with Shade but it's important that Star, you calm yourself, warn without direct threats, (but follow through if they still dont obey) don't try to impress me/other leaders by acting tough, and then I think you will be ready for the position again.
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Post by [QS]_Collin on Oct 31, 2010 10:26:52 GMT -5
Your right, i will pull it back a bit and go softer. Gentle Warnings, maybe 2 or 3 at the most then if it continues put the hammer down when its needed :3
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Post by [QS]² skruffinator on Oct 31, 2010 10:43:03 GMT -5
Tbh, I'm really against this. He hasn't even proved to me that he can control himself. Especially after what he did during one of the inclans he was hosting. I really don't want to have to work with somebody that I had to block because I got so fed up by him.
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Post by [QS] quiXoté~!! on Oct 31, 2010 11:13:50 GMT -5
I actually have some sympathy for skruff's view. Perhaps what may be better than solely debating whether Star is ready for a return to Co- is if he is the best candidate from the QS roster to take up the position.
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Post by [QS]_Collin on Oct 31, 2010 11:20:11 GMT -5
Tbh, I'm really against this. He hasn't even proved to me that he can control himself. Especially after what he did during one of the inclans he was hosting. I really don't want to have to work with somebody that I had to block because I got so fed up by him. Blocking is a sign of weakness, and how can we patch up our differences when you block some one? So why don't you unblock me so we can sit down and talk about our differences?
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Post by [QS]_ShaDo on Oct 31, 2010 14:50:15 GMT -5
yeah, so far people are not to sure on this as me and mike are. Yeah i told star the same thing sneaky said but in different wording on xfire, he keeps saying he'll handle things differently this time.. I like Quix's idea though.. If people aren't as sure as i am, we might go with that idea if not leave things the way they are until there is another candidate.
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Post by Ribbon on Oct 31, 2010 14:58:03 GMT -5
Ribbon: Leadership positions are on the horizon for you. We will talk.
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Post by [QS] quiXoté~!! on Oct 31, 2010 15:27:09 GMT -5
Lol, well there is always the option of people suggesting themselves. xD
There is also the option of the leadership choosing a few for Senate (and other leaders) to take a vote on, if our opinion will in some way shape this choice. Of course there are other ways to do this, but this is up to the leaders.
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Post by [QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie on Oct 31, 2010 15:47:25 GMT -5
Come on skruffers and star, cant you guys just kiss and make up? (No homo unless you want it to be and yes im looking at u skruffy ) Star could have potential to become a co-leader as long as he can keep his composure and not fall under the pressure. He has a attitude that is serious and has good perspectives on things. Im 50/50 on this :/
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Post by ZioN [QS] on Oct 31, 2010 19:49:59 GMT -5
Ribbon keep posting that and you won't have a leader position at all .
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