Allow Metra to have a tryout?

[[QS]~Hollow¬ø]

I've been talking to him lately and he changed he isn't the old annoying raging Metra anymore. He really want to re join QS. And I think we should leave his past be the past now since that he changed. We can put him on probation when he join so if he acts up we can kick.


So let him tryout?

[[QS]_Collin]

As long as he can control that tongue of his. The other day he said "Star we used to be homie G's until you told me you were gay"

Im not even gay i'm Bi. He had a real problem with mouthing off and sneaking into the clan. I guess we can give him a shot but he has to be on his best behavior. Currently the only issue is inclans. And it's not even a personal thing. Let's keep it this way.

In conclusion, if he can behave then sure.

[[QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie]

Absolutely not. Its the same thing we have been trying to stop forever. We stopped Toasty from trying to join bc of his shit talking and his multi joining qs and clan hopping. Just because Metra sucks your dick doesn't mean he should be let in.

We shouldn't just look past his past infactions such as joining QS under 4 accounts, shit talking, getting into other peoples inclans, and other stuff just because some time has passed ffs.

He told me these exact words before I left "Yay your leaving now I can join QS now cus ur the only one stopping me"

If you think Metra has changed then you must be retarded and soft...he's still the same metra, he still uses the same shitty tacts, he still talks shit (notice Stars post), he hasn't changed one goddamn bit.

In short, Hell No. If you disagree you must be gullible as hell to believe his dick sucking.

[ZioN [QS]]

I agree with wolfie.

Metra has had his chance, multiple times, even by going so far to acquire lesser known Qs members xfires and pose as them.

I remember when Metra finally left QS, right before I was just going to kick him because I was tired of all the shit he has done(he didn't know I was going to kick him nor did anyone else).

After he left, it was just like a different QS, it seemed cleansed like when a virus that fucks up your comp and then you finally get rid of it you have that feeling that the problem is gone and that it's clean.

What I'm trying to say is Metra was the virus, he caused so much shit it wasn't even funny. He raged all the time, picked fights with everyone, he made everyone fight with each other,he also made QS look bad, infiltrated R3's private servers which caused them to do the same thing, annoying and other shit.
When he left it was peaceful for awhile; the inclans ran smoothly, all the members were happy, relationship with R3 was getting better (sort of) and the mood of the clan was better then when metra was in it.

Now ask yourself, would you really want THAT back in this clan?

Sure you might think he has changed, shit even people thought Toasty changed and you guys gave him another chance but he still fucked up. No one really changes in life, only the strong do, maybe.

I know I'm not Co leader anymore to make a decision but as a long time member of QS I would say, hell no.

[[QS]~Hollow¬ø]

Reason why he joined with so many different account is because if you dont remember we all hated on him cause of the way he used to act so that caused him to quit. He didnt get kicked. He try joining with so many account cause he wanted a new start from us with out all the hate we give him that made him quit.

Should give him one last chance. Im not being soft or w/e i believe he actually changed. Out of everyone in this clan i have known him the longest and can tell that he really have changed.

And like i said we can put him on probation and if he havent really change we can kick him. You guys can see how loyal he is to QS by all the tries he try to re join QS.

Let look back at when he join with those fake account. The way he acted while using those fake accounts.. He didnt rage or shit talk. So how can you say he havent changed. Most of us couldnt even tell it was him cause he doesnt rage or shit talk anymore until you seen him play which was how we caught him was cause of the way he rox def more than a normal person would. But mostly everyone is rox defing now so he wouldnt really be a problem cause of that.


Just give the kid one last chance..

[ZioN [QS]]

Well that was just my opinion like Sneaky said this clan is based on giving second chances, hell I was even given a couple chances one for quiting QS as Co-leader when they needed me the most they let me re-join and another time for fighting with Sneaky about something he let me re-join. I haven't fucked up since.

But then again I didn't wreak havoc when I was in QS but Metra did.

If he has changed he's going to have to show all of us that he has.

[[QS]_ShaDo]

it's saturday, am drunk..


So i'll reply to this later. for now, don't try him out.


#real talk

[HeLL MewTwo [QS]4LiFe]

Ofc he didn't act like himself when he used all those fake accounts because he was hiding

And Yea maybe he will behave for the first 2 or 3 weeks then he's gonna go back to his normal self

Its a no for me at the moment

[`SNΞΔKY_[QS]]

when i was on xfire the other night he asked if he could join..didnt know what was going on so i told him i would make a post. he just pm'd me yesterday asking about it.

like mike said about second chances...

only my opinion:

you would think if someone fucked up really bad that they would feel stupid to try and rejoin..maybe there is some sincerity to his wanting to rejoin. from what i know my opinion would be to give him a 2nd shot--worst case if he fucks up again just perma kick him.

[[QS]_Collin]

I agree with sneaky & hollow. I think he has changed too. And what do we have to lose? If he slips up we can toss him out the window. And he is gone forever.

[[QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie]

Hollow, he was gonna get kicked. We all discussed it here, we all knew he was gonna be gone soon. I would rather leave QS then have that bad influence in our clan ffs. I don't care if he gives everyone in QS a blowjob, he is still the same goddamn person, and I will be really pissed if after all he's done to this clan, which is close to how bad Hypnos was, he gets in after time.


Seriously Hollow are you daft? Do you not realize he's just acting for you so you can let him in? He talked shit to me BEFORE I LEFT. That was only 3 days ago. I would rather let in Toasty and Lockon in the same day rather then Metra. I told him personally that if he were to join QS under any more fake names, he would lose his chances. That was when he fake joined the first time. So he joins under 4 fake names, that would denounce every single one of his chances in my mind.

Hollow the only reason he acted different was because he was UNDER A FAJE NAME. Ofc he talked shit. But he also acted like Metra in every way and that includes rox d, shit talking a little bit, and sucking dick to the higher ups. You must be gullible to believe he's gna be like YOUR SO GOOD! IF ONLY I JOINED QS SO WE CAN RAPE TOGETHER! He told me that not too long ago.

In conclusion, if you believe him you myst be retarded gullible or both. This wouldn't be his 2nd chance, it wud be like his 5th count his fake accounts. I would be really pissed off if we deny Toasty and then let in Metra and in my mind Toasty had the lesser offense.

[[QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie]

I rly am disappointed in my senate and higher ups. They have become soft and not realize we want to be a good clan and not let in people like Metra. This is the same senate that denied Fluffy ffs and Fluffys offense was way lesser than Metras.

[HeLL MewTwo [QS]4LiFe]

I agree with Wolfie

If we let Metra join we might as well let toasty join

He will do nothing but bring a bad rep to the clan .

Like Inclans aren't bad enough ( although it's getting better : D) I don't want it to go back to what it was

I don't care if he can get us some few wins or host inclans. I don't want him here

[[QS]_Collin]

First of all do not double post.

Second of all I am disappointed in you stating "Well you must be dumb or retarded" You must understand that not everyone will have the same opinion as you. And sneaky has said before "If you are willing to quit QS because we let some one in you don't like, then your not a true member"

I am not questioning your loyalty or anything like that. I am just stating what he has said before. He may or may not be acting. But we should give him a chance. And Fluffy was banned by me because of his booming of the inclans. Metra has never boomed anything. I think sneaking into one is a much lesser offence then crashing one.

Anyway I think we should give him a chance. And if you decide to quit then that's your choice. We cannot stop you, although we would be losing an important member.

[[QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie]

First of all, you don't play halo. So you don't know how he acts on and off the field so you have no right to tell me that he's a nice guy or not. Secondly I double poasted because its absolutely ridiculous that this same senate denied fluffy, toasty, and many others who most of which had lesser offenses thab Metra. I said "gullible or retarded" simply because atfer all that has happened and even 3 days ago he talked shit to me AND sucked my dick in the same day, your seriously suggesting he's changed? You would have to be blind to not realize metra is the same goddamn person a year ago, a month ago, today.

P.S my double post had nothing to do with my original.. I can double post if I like its not spam is it?

P.P.S I'm not the only one who doesn't like him, 99% of trial hates him...

[[QS]_Collin]

I sense anger taking hold. I guess that's expected. I talk to metra daily on xfire. I think he has changed.

And please just don't double post. I don't know why we can't just say. "Oh ok Sorry about that"

[[QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie]

Oct 9, 2011 13:52:46 GMT -5 [QS]_Collin said:

I sense anger taking hold. I guess that's expected. I talk to metra daily on xfire. I think he has changed.

And please just don't double post. I don't know why we can't just say. "Oh ok Sorry about that"

Anger? I ain't even mad tho...

Ofc you talk to him daily on xfire BECAUSE HE MESSAGES YOU. He knows ur site mod so if he can get on your good side he can have a chance, your just gullible enough to believe him, anyone with a brain wud realoze he's faking it.

My double post wasn't spam so I can if I want bc it had nothing to do with my first point, seperate post.

Nice job ignoring my other points btw well done debating.

[[QS]_Collin]

I'm done debating this. My opinion has been said. I'm not arguing with you or anyone else. You have fun with your double posting.

And by the way you failed to quote my text.

Nice catch. TTYL

Duces

[[QS]~Wolfie|Eternal|Flowie]

I'm on my phone so its impossible to not make a mistake.

Am the devil for double posting one time apparently.

[[QS]_ShaDo]

Oct 9, 2011 13:27:46 GMT -5 [QS]_Collin said:

First of all do not double post.

Second of all I am disappointed in you stating "Well you must be dumb or retarded"

Don't dog him out for saying stuff like that lol I remember yesterday hollow wanted RCON rights but you said "no, don't trust senate. Senate is corrupted" or something like that. Don't understand why you said that though.


Wolfie said that hollow already have 4 chances and joined on multiple accounts. I agree with him. I believe in 2nd chances, but he already had 4 chances... He made qs look like idiots and made our clan look bad. "How did qs let metra join qs in multiple accounts 4 times already?".

When he left qs, i was really glad tbh. He was on the verge of getting himself kicked because i had sooo many complains about him from our clan and other clans. So he's active, SO WHAT? So is pimp but i'm not ever gonna let him join. I know for a fact that he'll make our clan look really bad if we let someone who joined on fake accounts 4 times.

He's changed? I don't think he did, he's only trying to ass kiss everyone in qs just to rejoin. Every time he messages me on xfire, i usually ignore it. I can't talk to him normally without him ass kissing all the time.... Only way you can join qs is by earning it fairly, NOT ass kissing. He lost his chance after he faked accounts 4 times.

Remember qs beast? Remember when we found out that qs beast quit and we found out it was really tupac(metra) on his account now? We forgave him and took him in as our own member. He told me that he didn't want to talk alot when he was under fake accounts cuz he didn't want to give himself away. When he was secretly Chk and i was his scrim partner, i was doing horrid. I could tell he was almost on the verge of raging at me which made me confused cuz i don't remember Chk being sooooo competitive.


Bottom line, he already messed up his 2nd chance after faking 4 accounts. Made the whole clan feel like idiots for letting him do that. He was only nice in those accounts cuz he didn't want to give himself away. He's basically ass kissing every member in qs to rejoin. If he was just patient and waited instead of faking accounts, i would have let him in already. I'm not gonna fall for his ass kissing and it's a no for me.

Does any of us remember when he first joined qs? Oh wait, we don't because he first joined qs on QS Beast's account when Beast went inactive...

You all can get upset me all you want, just please understand where i'm coming at. I'm only trying to protect our clan's rep from getting worst.