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Post by [QS]²ICED on Oct 9, 2011 13:16:43 GMT -5
SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - California Governor Jerry Brown on Saturday signed a bill giving illegal immigrant college students access to state-funded financial aid, the second half of two-part legislation known as the "Dream Act." -http://news.yahoo.com/california-governor-signs-controversial-dream-act-191902671.html I just wanted to know what your thoughts are on this subject. In my opinion i don't think it was a smart idea especially because of how the state is in debt. yet the mexican in me kinda feels happy.
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Post by [QS]_ShaDo on Oct 9, 2011 20:29:41 GMT -5
Me being the mexicant, i support this.
I live 30 miles from the border in texas, and i hear about drug cartel shootings in mexico daily. Mexico's economy is getting worst and shootings are getting more common. It's no wonder more people from mexico are traveling to the states for a better life.
Pretty much how my ancestors got here.
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Post by `SNΞΔKY_[QS] on Oct 13, 2011 7:50:05 GMT -5
Seriously comon Eden...Mexicans are not bankrupting this country. Washington's spending is. Last week taxpayers spent roughly $108 million just on Congress..and less than 3% of them are Hispanic.
I support the bill...I believe it has long term benefits-Taking the risk of spending now, to better solidify the future.
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Post by [QS]_ShaDo on Oct 13, 2011 16:32:47 GMT -5
You support raping and bankrupting the country that you're hoping will save your people? My god, you QS kids aren't too bright are you? Raping? So your already stereotyping immigrants just because you see stories on the news of mexicants raping citizens? Yes, because the news loves to hear stories of immigrants succeeding in life and hate reporting about rape victims from them because that's just boring television/ Then again your known for tagging everyone in the same category if their under a tag or race. So i forgive you. Don't stick your nose up so high, you might drown if it rains.
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Post by Red on Oct 13, 2011 18:01:56 GMT -5
That was a stupid opinion Eden. Everyone deserves education and a nice life. You can't say: "Deport every inmigrant because is ruining USA economy". I heard USA laws can't deport anybody if they have a job (Legal or illegal, is a job) and those student are trying to substent their family, because they are poor, wants to leave the borderline problems or just try to subsist for themself.
What about Urugay, Argentina, Paraguay, Peru, Colombia, Surinam, Bolivia, Chile, Venezuela, Panama, El salvador, Guatemala, Dominican republic and other hundreds of people from other countries willing to get a job, work for their families and help USA? You just think everyobdy emigrate to USA just for steal, rape and make economic crisis? You are fucking wrong.
Thats because you are a illiterate bitch who just spend two/ three hours of your life per day writing bs and calling shit to everybody when in fact, your the only bitching, qqing and writing bs. Thats sad, you just sit on your computer, write that the "Master Eden" is the light when nobody is talking about you and then you say "80% of the threads talk about me".
Im saying this in front of your face. What u gonna do? ddos me? Start a no-sense debate talking about you and your massive ego? or just challenge me to 2v2 trial and then post in the r3 site "Massive victory against QS shitty"? Its time to grown up eden. Your the only one in the trial comunity talking mad shit daily. Grown up.
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Post by [Qs]Phantom on Oct 13, 2011 19:09:00 GMT -5
not the best timing for this bill, we still have that nice 9 letter word that starts with R
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Post by Red on Oct 13, 2011 22:39:19 GMT -5
Why debate in r3 forum? You have a nice debate thread here. r3 forum is your playing zone, this is our playing zone, debate and deal with it.
And yes, im the child who made a thread on r3 forums telling you how proud im for getting expelled from school for punching someone. Thats a problem?
Obviously the ILLEGAL poblation doesn't deserves any free services because they take advantge from it and like you said, it ruins the USA economy. But, USA is a democratic nation and you guys have one of the best Justice services, the congress can't just let die all the inmigrants because they are ruining the economy. Just imagine this, try to be a mexican in the borderline:
-The economy is getting worst, i can't buy anything because i don't have the money -The drug cartels are controling my city, you can't do anyting against them because they kill you. -My family is poor, i need do something or my childrens gonna die.
You just think about your situation AS american resident. Obviouly is bad for you ,beacuse YOUR hospitals, schools and banks are in bankruptcy and you social services are just dieing. But the problem in deport all ILLEGAL inmigrants:
-About 60% of the illegal inmigrants get a job, they become a productive section of the poblation. If you deport illegal inmigrant, USA is winning, but at the same time USA is losing. USA wins because the congress finally stop the lose of money in hospitals and schools for example, but USA lose at the same time because the productive section of the illegal inmigrants earn money, help the economy.
-Civil war: Just imagine all the illegal inmigrant from mexico getting mad because they can't emigrate to USA. They start a civil wars, Mexico illegal inmigrants against USA goverment.
Thats why the congress can't deport all illegal inmigrants. Of course they are doing what they can, they are still trying, but for me, USA lost this battle. You can't just lock the borderline and stop the inmigration.
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Post by `SNΞΔKY_[QS] on Oct 14, 2011 13:31:07 GMT -5
Eden need to take tour to Statue of Liberty and read da plaque inside..
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"....
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Post by [QS]~ikilledu on Jun 22, 2012 11:13:10 GMT -5
USA gov is stupid wasting so much money on wars and illegal immigrants. Its really not fair to me and my father. My father pays over $1,400 taxes and I get no grants either for college cuz his salary is high. And he has to pay $70,000 loan cuz his office moved to headquaters and it took us 6 months to sell our house so we paid an extra $1800x6 for that and then we had to make a down payment for new house in NJ and repair it. He also lost money in stocks. Now he pays like $2,000 a month for loans and at least $1,000 is interest. Its messed up now they give illegal immigrants, but not me. Illegal immigrants don't pay taxes and my father pays over $1,400 a month.
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